We visited two excursions: to Mirsky and Nesvizh castles and a sightseeing tour of Minsk. We were very satisfied, wonderful guides Elena and Anatoly (respectively)! The excursions are well thought out in time and comfortably organized. In the case of an all-day excursion, lunch is provided (hearty and delicious). Free time is also provided for photographing and/or visiting additional exhibitions (such as the prison basement in Mir Castle). The tours are also very informative. Separately, I would like to mention the sense of humor of the guide Elena, who took us through two famous Belarusian castles. Elena skillfully combined historical facts with jokes and interesting stories, so it was easy and exciting to listen.
In addition, the tour desk managers respond very promptly to requests. We realized a little late, and it turned out that we sent a request on the site after business hours. However, they answered us, told us all the details and we were able to join the tour, which took place the next day.
Many thanks to the whole team TravelAgency.by !!!
We visited Belarus for the first time and fell in love with this country, including thanks to your agency. First, we walked around Minsk with a sightseeing tour. Then we visited castles in Mir and Nesvizh. The beauty is incredible! Special thanks to the guide Anatoly for his attention, care, professionalism, interesting accompaniment, emotions and amazing voice) I wish you great success, grateful tourists and prosperity. Yes, new sustrach!
While on vacation in Minsk, my husband and I decided to visit the famous castles of Belarus: Nesvizh and Mirsky. They stopped their attention on the agency TravelAgency.by , which we have never regretted. After making the prepayment, we were sent an SMS (photo attached). On the day of the trip, 2 guys met us at the designated place, who very smartly accepted the payment and we set off. The organization of the tour itself is fine-tuned for 5+. The time for walking with a guide and for an independent walk around local attractions is well allocated. I would also like to mention a guide named Anatoly, with whom we were very lucky (there was someone to compare with). A friendly, educated young man with clear diction (which is important for a guide) and a wonderful sense of humor. We are going to come again next year, we will certainly contact this agency, and we will be infinitely glad if Anatoly accompanies us again. Thank you for a great time and wonderful memories! Good luck and prosperity to your agency!💐
The Nesvizh-Mir excursion turned out to be wonderful for us! We also listened with interest about the city of Minsk, its history and several architectural sites, as well as nearby villages. The trip was pleasant, the guide was conscientious and interested in spending time with us! There was a very delicious lunch in the World at the Ragneda restaurant, where we were served quickly and carefully. I was pleased with the opportunity to visit additional places. In general, everything was great! The guide Anatoly is really very interested in his business, ready to give interesting facts and enter into additional arguments. Anatoly and the agency itself also helped a lot in finding the thing that was missing in Nesvizh, they did not remain indifferent, and the thing was returned! We are definitely satisfied with the trip, a pleasant, calm road. We express our great gratitude
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The excursions are interesting, the guides tell interesting stories, the transport is convenient.
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We went on excursions to Nesvizh and Mir castles, everything is organized, the bus is comfortable, the guide Anatoly is a professional in his field, tells us very interestingly, it is clear that he approaches the matter responsibly. We immediately took the complex with lunch and were surprised, it was delicious and homely, very decent. The only thing is, you need to prepare for a high pace of excursions and a lot of walking, in the end you are already tired
We went on a sightseeing tour of Minsk. The tour is very interesting, informative, the time flew by very quickly. The guide Mikhail is a professional in his field, very educated, erudite. We are also planning other excursions
We went to the castles of Nesvizh and Mir on January 25, our guide was Anatoly - an excellent story, a lot of knowledge, a wonderful speech! The route and time management are perfectly thought out.
We also really liked the guides in the museums of both castles - a lot of information, but an easy presentation, with humor.
A comfortable, clean minibus and a neat driver.
And, of course, thanks to the group of 16 people, but everything is calm and without delay.
In general, despite the rainy and snowy weather, the trip was a success!
06/24/2024 we went on a sightseeing tour of the city of Minsk.
Organization of excursions at the travelagency.by convenient: we made an order on the website, and after a few minutes a confirmation came to the messenger with a detailed indication of the meeting place. In fact, the meeting took place where it was written. We are tourists from another country, so it was convenient for us to pay in cash on the spot.
The tour turned out to be informative, as we wanted. Olga is a great guide. She revealed to us every attraction from the most interesting side. We learned a lot of new things and enthusiastically looked at everything around us.
Going on an excursion at the beginning of the vacation allowed us to better understand where everything is in the following days. On Olga's advice, we visited some places, now understanding their importance, and tried some local dishes.
The trip was comfortable, the bus is large with wide windows and comfortable seats, there is enough space for a bag on the top shelf. The driver drove safely, gently, everyone had time to see.
We recommend excursions to this company!
I was on a tour of Palaces and castles: Mir and Nesvizh on 07/25/2024 with Anatoly. Thank you for the wonderful tour and the organization. The bus is modern, clean, and comfortable. I booked the tour on the website for 2 weeks, received confirmation via WhatsApp, offered different payment options, you can even on the spot before the tour. But I like to pay for everything in advance, they sent me a link and I paid with a Mir card. I recommend this company and the tour, the castles are beautiful.
Well done!!! Everything is organized!
We visited two excursions: 1 - Nesvizh and Mirsky castles. Special THANKS to the guide Elena! Delivered speech! - what is rare is that the amount of information is simply amazing!!! Well done!!!
2 - Brest Fortress and Belovezhskaya Pushcha - there was a man as a guide. Normal.
And all two excursions were clearly organized!
I definitely recommend this company!
We were on 4 excursions with agency guides, on the sightseeing tour with Anatoly, with Denis in Castles and in Brest + Belovezhskaya Pushcha, as well as on BelAZ with Ekaterina. Amazing excursions, after the review of Anatoly, I wanted to sit down at books again and read, read, Anatoly showed and told the main historical outline in 3 hours, motivated me to knowledge)), Denis is just super, we
spent more than 24 hours with him, it was very interesting, emotional, informative, the guide's love and pride for our country, well, the excursion to BelAZ was remembered for a lifetime, we will not miss it on the road). Thank you for your hard work and love and pride for your country!
A visit to the mill is indicated in the program of the site for an excursion to Dudutki. We went on 09/15/2024. The mill was not visited either before or after. At the entrance to Dudutki, the guide Roman told about the mill, but they did not stop at the mill itself. The tour ended at 13.05. At 13.40 the bus left the complex for Minsk. During this time, it is impossible to walk to the mill on your own, look at something there and go back. I made a request to the site, I would still like to get there. I was told that every Sunday the bus stops at the mill. Alas, I already "went there" one Sunday. Next Sunday, pay for the tour and again not see the object... After all, it turns out that a lie is written on the site. It warns that the organizers may change the order of visits to the facilities, but not their number. Volumes are saved. It is not true. About nutrition. If you mean tasting bread, cheese and moonshine, then yes, meals are included. And so they ate at the cafe for their own money, because two pieces of bread and three pieces of cheese the size of a three-kopeck coin are hard to even call a snack. I recommend finding something cheaper and more objective. So as not to be disappointed.
An ancient castle, a wonderful place where you can get acquainted with the history of Belarus. I do not recommend climbing the towers, the stairs are narrow and high, my legs will hurt for a long time later. And of course, anyone with claustrophobia is absolutely not allowed.
Yesterday we went on a 3-hour sightseeing tour of Minsk. The tour was conducted by Anatoly, we were very satisfied. Thanks to Anatoly, we fell in love with excursions again. Our guide turned out to be very charismatic, sociable, and an excellent storyteller. It is clear that a person loves his job and knows the history of his city well. Besides, Anatoly has a beautiful voice and diction. We recommend visiting excursions with this amazing guide
A great company. Excellent service. Upon arrival, they were stupid and late - they quietly rescheduled for another day. The guide on the tour May 22, 2024 Mir-Nesvizh is a guide from God. As well as on a sightseeing tour on May 23, departing at 12 o'clock in Minsk. If I go again, I will go with this company and recommend others to go there. Travel Agency buy - keep it up! Aaaaa and most importantly - they suggested where to eat draniki - this is how it is to come to Belarus and not taste them!
We ordered a family trip to BelAZ, but the child got sick the day before, as a result, only 1 person went, and they refused to refund money for unused tickets, citing the rules. But six months later, the money was returned, which made us very happy! As for the tour itself, the weather spoiled the impression on the 4th
Real professionals in both organization and content! They respond promptly to all questions, build the work so that it is convenient for tourists. And most importantly, they really cheer for the result and their work. We were a group from Moscow and St. Petersburg on excursions to Mir and Nesvizh. Perfect timing, everything is thought out. Special thanks to the guide Elena — positive, with deep comprehensive knowledge that she can present in an easy way, positive, with a wonderful sense of humor. Thanks!
I really enjoyed the sightseeing tour of Minsk! We are absolutely delighted! We were very lucky with the guide, Valeria (unfortunately, we did not remember the last name). Despite the fact that a marathon was taking place in the city and roads were blocked along the route, Valeria did not fade away - she continued to tell us very interestingly and in detail about the history of Minsk houses. Thank her so much for such a decent job! We are glad that we got on this tour.
We were on a tour of the Castles of Nesvizh-Mir. A great tour, we learned and saw so much! Castles are definitely a must-visit! Elena is a wonderful guide, tells accessible stories, knows the answers to all questions, is friendly and responsive! The bus is convenient, comfortable with Wi-Fi. They took it with food, it was delicious. I highly recommend it!
We ordered 3 excursions from this agency: Castles, Belaz and Brest. Brest and Belovezhskaya Pushcha were specially left for last, since it was the "reserved tune" that was the dream to visit. As a result: a half-empty large bus with a comfortable escort was sent to Belaz (it took less than an hour to drive), and a hearse minivan with non-working ventilation at a temperature of +40 was sent to Brest! It's an outrage! The driver showed with all his appearance that his passengers did not care about his problems, you die there, cores, and die. And when they were taken to the Forest to look at the views through the window of the prison...Bullying! Brest is not worth your money, it is more budget-friendly and quieter to take the train. And no one will really see Brest, I'm not talking about the forest at all! The whole vacation is ruined! The guide did a good job, he kept himself in this hell as best he could. But such "comfortable" mini-rooms, where the knees rest against the forehead, and the temperature is shocking for all 60 in the cabin...Guys, don't cheat! Why do you send a half-empty one to Belaz, but send a small box to Brest? As a result, fainting on the bus from overheating, lack of a first-aid kit, overheating, spoiled vacation. And the driver's answer to everything is the same -well, the ventilation is broken, and what's next? The desire was to put this driver in the cabin. We do not recommend Belovezhskaya Pushcha, divorce! They are rowing money, but in fact...
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Now, 08/16/24 we are returning from the excursion "Brest Fortress and Belovezhskaya Pushcha" and there is time to write a review about disappointment.
The time schedule of the tour shows when and where we should visit. In the beginning, Brest, then lunch, then to Belovezhskaya Pushcha. Everything did not go according to plan from the very beginning, and we were taken first to the Forest-it's 5 hours by bus. The tour itself
Belovezhskaya Pushcha is a bus ride along it under the interrupted narration of the guide (she told me interestingly), the only stop is at the oak tree, then the aviaries (ticket is purchased separately)- this is a walk of about 1 km along the fence of the grid, in an attempt to see who lives there. We didn't take tickets, we looked at it from the bus window. Honestly, I expected a little more.
Now we will move to Brest, have lunch, view Gogol Street and inspect the Brest Fortress.
Our guide found our cafe from the third time, before that we had a crowd of 40 people (okay, I exaggerated, some did not have time to go in) ran into the wrong places twice. By the way, the food is good.
After that, we went to see Gogol Street, probably 100 meters away, the bus again, the Brest Fortress.
Beautiful, monumental, inspires respect. After visiting 3 museums (not what you thought, the guide and I were looking for which one), we found out that our tour of the museum was postponed from 16 o'clock to 17. People dispersed to explore the beauty, sights on their own, and someone went to the museum for their money. By 17 o'clock, from the dialogue we heard between our guide and the staff of the Brest Fortress, it turned out that we would not have an excursion, since the travel agency had not paid the previous bills. Disappointment, sadness, time spent waiting. Thanks to the guide, she invited everyone to take a tour of the fortress for them. It was obvious that she was very uncomfortable with the current situation. And yes, the whole program is within the framework of "running, we don't have time."
And special thanks to the driver Andrey for the professionalism and excellent condition of the bus.
To summarize, the day and money were wasted, and they paid 2 times for an excursion to the Brest Fortress Museum-to the travel agency and themselves, when they killed an hour waiting.
We went to the castles of Nesvizh-Mir.
Excellent organization and an interesting tour. Alexey accompanied us on the bus - a wonderful guide! All the way there and back, he talked about the history of the country, Minsk, castles, and also shared useful information for tourists.
We took an additional lunch and did not regret it, it was comprehensive, delicious and well organized, because there was not much time for lunch to look and wait somewhere.
Thanks for the organization!
We visited a sightseeing tour of Minsk and excursions to Grodno with a wonderful guide Anatoly. We also went on excursions to the castles of Nesvizh and Mirsky with the guide Denis. Both are professionals in their field. They told fascinating stories about the history of Belarus. The legends of the castle were told with humor. Time flew by unnoticed. Thank you very much to the entire TravelAgency team.
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Надежда К.
Level 5 Local Expert
April 8
We traveled with this company to the castles of Mir and Nesvizh in the summer of 2024. I chose the tour in advance and paid for it online. The staff is always in touch, communicating in what's up. They called back the day before, clarified / reminded.
I really liked everything!
My biggest thanks go to Elena, the tour guide. She told everything very interestingly, a person with humor is important! In total, 10 points out of 10.
The organization of the excursion is excellent.
Everything is timed. The bus is gorgeous. Mercedes. The bus has air conditioning, Wi-fi, everything is very comfortable.
Lunch is delicious and satisfying))
The guides in the castles also really liked it. The information was delivered dynamically, informatively, and lovingly.
We were very satisfied!!!
Another trip to BelAZ.
There was a minibus, comfortable. It's not far to go. The tour at the factory is interesting, we were in the assembly shop, at the site with ready-made machines. We climbed and took pictures with these giants.
For an additional fee.We took a ride in one of the cars.
Everyone is happy, especially my son))
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Светлана С.
Level 8 Local Expert
March 28
Nesvizh and the World. I liked everything. An excellent guide, a comfortable bus, excellent locations, and most importantly, incredibly accurate timing. Everything is planned perfectly. The only thing is, I didn't really like the lunch, it's better to take something with you.
On 12/25/2023, we were with a friend on a sightseeing tour of Minsk.The tour was conducted at the highest level.The guide Yaroslav, despite his young age, is a professional with a capital letter!Competently, clearly, interestingly!Nothing superfluous!We travel a lot, there is something to compare it with.I would like to wish him further success, and the administration to reward him financially.Sincerely, Mirgorodskaya And Ivanova L.
The sightseeing tour of Minsk with Anatoly's guide was simply magnificent. Three hours flew by unnoticed, the information was presented very competently and concisely. We are very satisfied. Thanks for the good work!!!
We came to the wonderful city of Minsk for the first time, although we have been to Belarus more than once.
And we are very glad that this time we took both friends and children and went on a tour of the Mir and Nesvizh castles!
10+ impressions!. Everything is wonderful, well organized, the road is in a comfortable bus, the guide Anatoly showed himself to be a super professional in his field. He was able to convey both the beauty of his region and the love and historical moments not only of Mir and Nesvizh, but also a little on the way to them and Minsk (not every guide does this).
Our whole company was impressed for another 2 days).
We wish good luck and prosperity to the TravelAgency tour operator.good luck and creative success to our guide Anatoly!
Everything is fine! We went on an excursion on 05/04-23 to Nesvizh and Mir. Conscientious organization of the entire trip - a meeting at the town hall, a comfortable bus with air conditioning and the possibility of charging at each seat, the guide Mikhail led the tour perfectly, learned a lot of interesting things from the history of Belarus and curious stories about smugglers of that time))), lunch between visits to the castles was organized on time (we went straight to the table). Visiting castles and churches impressed me. It is clear that the guides love their work. Special thanks to Mikhail, he watched the group very carefully, in addition to the historical part, he also organized everyone. Thank you very much!!! We have a lot of photos now, thanks to the tour)
On July 9, we were on a guided tour in the city of Grodno. We are very pleased with the tour. I liked that everything was thought out and organized: transport, tour route, lunch (very tasty). Special thanks to the guide Anatoly, he is a very pleasant, cultured and educated person. We learned a lot of interesting things from the history of our country and the city of Grodno. We are delighted with the organ music concert!!! We recommend this tour and this tour operator. And if Anatoly, the guide, is with you, then it will definitely be an interesting tour!
I was with this company on a sightseeing tour of Minsk. A very interesting and exciting excursion! We have seen all the main sights of Minsk. The guide is an amazing storyteller, unobtrusively, humorously, but at the same time very informative. Thank you very much, I definitely recommend it to everyone!
We went on a sightseeing tour to Grodno on October 5 with our guide Anatoly. I really liked it. Everything is perfectly organized. Anatoly the guide is a professional in his field!!! We recommend it
On 15.04. we went on an excursion "Gervyaty-Soly-Zalesye".
A very interesting tour!
We looked at the extraordinary churches. Preserved through time and restored.
We visited the wonderful M.Oginsky Museum.We heard an amazing story about the life and work of M.Oginsky.
We had lunch in a cafe:very tasty and large portions.
We had an excellent guide with us - Eugene - this is truly a storehouse of knowledge about history!
He was able to make us fall in love with these beautiful and stunning places.
We were able to see so many cultural objects!
Thank you so much for his hard work!
A very eventful tour!
We advise everyone!
A well-organized tour. We had a guide, Denis. I like it when a person has a sense of humor, Denis is exactly like that. At the same time, he explained the rules as politely as possible to everyone, patiently repeated them for those who did not hear, did not understand, etc., not a second of irritation. The trip is about 10.5 -11 hours, while Denis practically did not stop talking, talked and talked, not tedious, but very interesting. For those who like to climb towers, this is the castle in the World, and for those who want to see the beautiful, this is the castle in Nesvizh. I recommend it)
We were on an excursion on 08/16/24. Alas, it was the worst excursion in my life. Instead of 4 hours, the one-way trip took 5 hours. According to the schedule, we were supposed to be brought to Brest first, but we went first to Belovezhskaya Pushcha, because there were some overlays in time by a local guide. A tour of Belovezhskaya Pushcha is really a "bus ride through the forest"; we got off the bus for a couple of minutes just once to look at the oak tree. Then in Brest, the guide took us to the wrong cafe - she did not know where the right cafe was, she asked the locals for directions. Fortunately, there was a cafe. In the Brest Fortress, our guide took us from museum to museum, and they didn't let us in any of them. An employee of the Brest Fortress told our guide that "your company has not paid us for the previous excursion groups, so new groups will not be allowed into the museums"! Before that, the guide said that we would be given a tour of the fortress without museums, although they did not let us into the museums, we just need to wait an hour. But there was no tour of the result. She herself tried to save the situation and tell something, although she had previously said that only local guides could conduct excursions there. The bus fees and departure were first announced by our guide at 17:40, then 18:00, then again at 17:40, when some people had already left after hearing about 18:00. Some of them almost missed the bus, which eventually left Brest at 17:40. Due to poor organization, we had less time for sightseeing, or we had to buy a ticket to the museum at our own expense, because the promised service was not provided to us by the company.
One of the advantages was the following: the lunch was delicious, the driver drove the bus carefully and professionally, the bus itself was in good condition, the air conditioner worked perfectly, the guide from Belovezhskaya Pushcha told interesting stories about the Forest on the tour), the Brest Fortress impressed, despite all the problems on the part of the tour organizer.
But these advantages are certainly not enough to negate the huge disadvantages that we encountered on the tour. Very sorry.
The sightseeing tour of Minsk is great. It is very intense, interesting, and humorous.Many thanks to the guide Egor.
The excursion to the Mir and Nesvizh castles did not make such an indelible impression, but it was also on the level. Thanks to the guide Elena. Professional, informative.
The impression was slightly spoiled by the fact that the day before they were asked to come early for an excursion to Mir and Nesvizh (instead of 9.00 at 8.30). However, the tour still left at 9. We were told "you would have come in an hour." We couldn't have a proper breakfast because of this. Otherwise, no complaints.
We were in Minsk on May 9-10. We took a three-hour sightseeing tour of Minsk. Anatoly the guide is a super professional! He didn't let me get bored for a minute, he was very charismatic! He talked about the city very interestingly! Lots of positive emotions!
A good agency, good-natured employees in the office, will always help and tell you which tour to take when it is available. The only wish is to set up an alert organization by SMS or via messenger for a given tour
Yesterday, my family and I took an evening tour of the city of Minsk. I liked everything: the guide, the organization, excursions. Minsk is amazing in the evening!!! Very beautiful, atmospheric.
Thanks to a wonderful guide, we learned a lot about the city!)
I recommend this tour operator to everyone!
Good afternoon!!! I want to share my impressions of your wonderful company, express my gratitude and admiration for the guided tours, everything was done at the highest level, all the Guides are brilliant!!! Thanks to the guide Elena and the driver Ole for the trip to Nesvizh and the World on 06/10/23😘😘😘😘😘 Thanks to Anatoly and the driver, sorry, I don't remember my name, in my opinion Alexey may be mistaken, for the trip on 06/11/2013 to Grodno!!! And finally, to Mikhail and the driver for a great overview of Minsk on 06/12.23, I also want to note the good and prompt work with clients of your entire wonderful tour company!!!!
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Елена
Level 3 Local Expert
March 19
On 03/13/2025, I went on an excursion to Mirsky and Nesvizh castles, accompanied by my guide Anatoly. Excellent organization of the tour! Excellent presentation of the material from Anatoly and support throughout the day!We managed everything without queues or haste. In addition to the castles, we managed to visit the Catholic church in Nesvizh and take a walk in the park. Definitely, I recommend it
The Mir-Nesvizh excursion is less picturesque in the cold season, there is no opportunity to enjoy all the beauty of nature. But we went anyway and didn't regret it. Everything was organized perfectly. The manager of the company was always in touch, answered all questions and was as polite and customer-oriented as possible, unlike the employees of the Tripster company.
Our guide Anatoly told interesting facts and stories all the way, not only about these two castles, but also about the country as a whole. It is very informative and informative.
There were separate excursions in the castles themselves. I liked the guide in Nesvizh more.
Lunch was organized in a nice clean cafe. Everything was delicious. The hostess is a lovely woman, we all really liked the attention she gave us.
I also want to note the careful and safe driving of the driver of our minibus.
We sincerely thank the work of your team. We recommend you to all our friends!
12.09 We were on a day trip to Nesvizh and Mir. The trip was booked in advance on the website without any problems.
The tour of the castles of Belarus turned out to be wonderful. The guide Elena told a very fascinating, informative and voluminous story. In addition to the excursion directly to Nesvizh and Mir, the bus trip also did not go unnoticed and was accompanied by a great entertaining lecture on the history of the Belarusian lands.
In addition to the historical part, the tour was as organized as possible and clearly timed. The work of professionals is visible! We are very happy with the time spent
Good evening!
I was on a sightseeing tour with Yaroslav on 14.09 today.
I want to thank him for a wonderful guided tour. Complete delight!
Beautiful correct intelligent speech. There are a lot of historical facts and interesting information, but Yaroslav presented it in such a way that he did not overload his perception and I wanted to listen and listen to him. Although we were unlucky with the weather: it was cold and it was constantly raining. But the right combination of walking tours of sites, places and buses made us forget about the inhospitable weather :)
Once again, thank you very much to all of you, and especially to Yaroslav. Let there be more such guides!!!!
Be healthy! Good luck in everything!
We went on an excursion to the castles of Nesvizh and Mir in December. I liked absolutely everything. Impeccable organization of the tour, everything is clear, customer-oriented. Good transport, excellent driver. Elena is a great guide, a historian by education. The locks themselves were very impressive. I recommend the agency 100%.
A gorgeous sightseeing tour of Minsk. Of course, this is only thanks to the guide Anatoly. who managed to organize a huge group. Organization of an excursion at altitude. A tour guide with a microphone both on the bus and on the street. Everyone can hear everything. A well-thought-out route, with stops, with time on the photo, on the toilet, with accents on museums, shops, where to eat, etc. The guide is very attentive, we didn't lose anyone along the route. There was a wonderful, complete, fascinating story by Anatoly all along the route. Anatoly helped to form an idea about Belarusians, Belarus, Minsk, sights, history. Anatoly answered all the questions in detail, interestingly. You can see how the guide loves his job and Belarus. 3 hours flew by instantly. We are thrilled.
If you don't know which tour to go on, go to the one that Anatoly will lead. And if you have already been on this tour with another guide, then even more so go. Because with Anatoly, you will see everything with different eyes, and even get exclusive information. I recommend the agency, the organization and conduct of excursions are very high quality. The only "minus" is that after Anatoly, other guides (objectively very worthy) are simply not perceived))))